This file marks the . Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. What you did was appalling. Code I wouldn't have submitted if I had known you were going to block people from using it commercially, even in the free version? You signed in with another tab or window. But to get the latest updates, features and fixes, you will eventually need to migrate to a more recent version, which will be licensed for non-commercial projects. It lies 3,113 feet (949 metres) above sea level, atop an east-west ridge in the Karnataka Plateau in the southeastern part of the state, at a cultural meeting point of the Kannada-, Telugu-, and Tamil-speaking peoples. The Extended WPF Toolkit is a collection of WPF controls, components and utilities made available outside the normal WPF Toolkit. Again, this doesn't sit well with a lot of us. Starting at v4.0.0, this free toolkit is provided . A tag already exists with the provided branch name. I was only allowed to use this toolkit because the original licensing was compatible with commercial use for free. I don't sell this software or distribute this software outside of Google, all developers of it and users of it are internal. We developed the whole Toolkit based on the community suggestions. Remember, even if its a small, tiny part that the community committed, you have no way of knowing how important that was to get people to come to your project to make it successful. You signed in with another tab or window. I think others (like Syncfusion) going better ways with a small business license for free. But you can create an open source project which is non-commercial. donations. Are you sure you want to create this branch? anyone nor charge any amounts of money or accept donations or exchange services for This is the plan for now, but things could change even more in the favor of the Free OpenSource users in a near future. You really don't get Open Source, do you? Provides 48 controls, all offered under the MS-PL License. I personally was in the camp that if I needed the extra stuff in 'Plus', I'd have happily paid, but now since you're making people pay for the non-plus version, that just leaves too big a taste in my mouth, again, especially as someone who has either directly committed to, or via other developers helped commit to fixing bugs. without Xceeds written permission (other than the Copyright notice stated above in the "Having this double-whammy not only do you not get all controls, but the controls you do get you have to now pay for, is not what most of us consider a good business ". A tag already exists with the provided branch name. We feel betrayed. Extended WPF Toolkit by Xceed is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. Meanwhile, the commercial components have not been updated since January 2019. It includes controls that are missing from the WPF Toolkit. If you are working on a non-commercial project, you don't have to pay anything, nothing has changed for you with the new license. More importantly, two, we chose to use your free components specifically because it was free for commercial use and are using it in software that we have been developing for the past four years which we still havent yet released because of the amount of effort a small firm needs when going it alone for something like were doing. or may be settled or disposed of at Xceeds discretion. It has been downloaded more than 1 million times here, on Codeplex, and on NuGet. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. My strong adviceall of ours here actuallyis to change the free version back to truly free for all use, and stop neglecting it as compared to the plus version in regards to bug fixes. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. All rights reserved. Thank you. I am the original author of the Codeproject Tutorial which I think I've created about 2010 and I felt the same way as you do a few years ago, which is why I've started an alternative branch that is closing in on 500 Stars and 100,000 nuget downloads :-), These Stars and download figures would not be happening without your contribution - so don't be sad, because your project is alive and doing well - it just moved on to somewhere else :-). -sell your project By installing, copying or otherwise using the This is kind of like the Toolkit on GitHub : an open source project free of use.but non-commercial. You do not need to use any of the classes of this assembly (unless customizing the WPF functionality of the platform), and should just use the UI controls from the Eto assembly. A commit on Nov 26, part of the v3.7 release, replaced the MS-PL license with the Xceed Software, Inc Community License Agreement (for non-commercial use). We should be supporting that branch going forward and separating ourselves from Xceed. General section). I personally agree--as I'm sure others do too--that you can happily charge for all new components, or even enhancements to existing components (i.e. By selling it, you make money : you need a Commercial Toolkit license, you need to use the Plus version of the Toolkit and pay the license from https://xceed.com/xceed-toolkit-plus-for-wpf/. Companies, just like people, make mistakes. arising out of the use of the Software even if Xceed may have been advised of such About - the said resulting work. Read the Frequently Asked Questions about NuGet and see if your question made the list. Unless this license changes back, Xceed will no longer get our money, but also wont get our support or recommendations. These details are provided for information only. Type Install-Package Extended.Wpf.Toolkit in the console window. Since the community version is what the community works with, they suggests fixes for the community version and this is where we put them. Good morning @XceedBoucherS. v4.4.0 provides 17 bug fixes and improvements, including the .NET5/6 dlls. My projects now fail to compile due to the lack of license. As for the Free OpenSource Toolkit version, this product is still offered for free to any users not making any money from it, but also to any users which are developing a software with the Toolkit, but haven't made a sell yet. But I'm certainly a commercial enterprise and you could argue that this software is used to make money because it helps us do performance reviews, which helps retain good talent and so we make more money. We prioritize the fixes and features based on the community needs and work on them. privacy statement. -"no re-selling, licensing or sub-licensing or any other rights of use". Terms of Use - deployed or distributed to more than 10 users/end-users even in a Non-Commercial You have to manually add them - right click in the Toolbox menu, then add a new tab for WPF Extended Toolkit, then select "Choose Items.", select the WPF Components tab & browse to the DLL that you installed (mine was installed to packages\Extended.Wpf.Toolkit.2.3\lib\net40 in the application folder). It has been downloaded more than 1 million times here, on Codeplex, and on NuGet.. People like myself come along and try to support you, working on your codebase, pushing PRs to fix your issues but you hold those fixes to the free version so you can give them to the paid users. v3.1.0 provides 37 bug fixes and improvements. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. The Pull Requests from the community are never merged in directly from Nuget. That's fine because it would have given us valuable information needed to make our decisions up front. There is an open source fork of the Xceed work which you can use and that is still free and will remain free. The bottom line is Xceed really burned their bridges here. July 11, 2017: The project's new home is Github. The Software is provided under a Used By Versions Release Notes Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. Just be patient. We have received precisely zero updates for our money. I will be updating here with my lawyers response shortly, possibly in the form of a cease-and-desist to them. This is plan for now. The Toolkit is an important project for us and we will continue to make it progress in time. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. v4.0.2 provides 22 bug fixes and improvements. Showing the top 5 NuGet packages that depend on Extended.Wpf.Toolkit: An open-source plugins and extensions library for AnyStatus. Your assumption is correct however, we will soon announce some changes to our license that could be beneficial for you, keep an eye open the announcement should be coming soon. This Community License Agreement (the Agreement) is a legal agreement between Thats table stakes. In no case shall Xceed be responsible or Combined with this thread confirming that the "free" components developed with the help of the community will no longer be "free", I can only recommend to my company that we do not renew our subscription this year. WPF is by default preferred over the Eto.Platform.Windows platform, so if both are included, WPF will be selected. This is the WPF platform for Eto.Forms UI Framework. Xceed Toolkit Plus for WPF. #tool nuget:?package=Extended.Wpf.Toolkit&version=3.5.0, Capture Screen, Audio, Cursor, Mouse Clicks and Keystrokes, Machine learning, computer vision, statistics and general scientific computing for .NET, Cross platform GUI framework for desktop and mobile applications in .NET, Windows Driver and XInput Wrapper for Sony DualShock 3/4 Controllers, https://github.com/xceedsoftware/wpftoolkit. @XceedBoucherS is there any answer to this question? It has been downloaded more than 1 million times here, on Codeplex, and on NuGet.. We have supported your software specifically because it was free for commercial use. Share answered Apr 25, 2016 at 9:30 PaulF Authors such as myself did not, nor would we ever authorize a company to profit from our work. Published by Xceed Software Distributed by ComponentSource since 1998. This is the WPF platform for Eto.Forms UI Framework. Given that the release 3.6.0 and under are licensed under # Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) is this possible to continue using these versions in commercial use as long as we don't update to 3.7.0 ? The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: but there are alternatives - open your eyes and you shall see: I am having a feeling this issue entry won't have any effect as so many discussions that I've seen on similar subjects before. Software, you confirm your agreement to the terms and conditions expressed in this Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Microsoft Public License for maximum freedom. Improve this answer. Essential WPF controls for creating Windows applications. This was the case from v2.0 to v3.6 (about 7 years), but some people where making money from it without any contribution to the owners. Starting at v4.0.0, this free toolkit is provided . Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. Xceed changed its licensing and may have broken the law by putting a commercial license on code that was committed under the premise of being open source. So the OpenSource version is for non-commercial projects. potential damages or loss. Bengaluru is one of India's largest cities. -get any kind of money for your project Many Git commands accept both tag and branch names, so creating this branch may cause unexpected behavior. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Microsoft Public License for maximum freedom. Are you sure you want to create this branch? Many Git commands accept both tag and branch names, so creating this branch may cause unexpected behavior. It has been downloaded more than 1 million times here, on Codeplex, and on NuGet.. They are associated with the DLL file extension, developed by Softland for Extended WPF Toolkit. Being commercial doesn't mean we are flush with cash. any purpose that is not strictly Non-Commercial Use, or if the Software is to be v4.4.0 provides 17 bug fixes and improvements, including the .NET5/6 dlls. Unfortunately, anything less than that and Xceed is no longer a company I can work with paid or otherwise, nor is it something I can actively support with any of my clients as I have been, happily, for the past ten years. Use it to build professional looking, modern, and easy to use WPF applications. The COMMUNITY LICENSE AGREEMENT doesn't describe that and I think it's all a matter of interpretation. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Microsoft Public License for maximum freedom. Include this along with your Eto.Forms application to provide a WPF interface for your windows users. Have a question about this project? I'm the original author of AvalonDock (from back 2007), I spent endless hours of my personal time to allow the community of WPF opensource users a valid alternative to all the other commercial docking libraries. Documentation, source, and. I don't sell this software or distribute this software outside of Google, all developers of it and users of it are internal. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. Documentation, source, and discussions are hosted on Github at . https://xceed.com/xceed-toolkit-plus-for-wpf/. This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. license; it is not sold in any manner. It's what you do afterwards. Have projects where someone buys me a beer, is it commercial? This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. Xceed clearly states that this Community License includes no warranty of any type. @XceedBoucherS I'm a bit confused on using the toolkit on an internal-use-only application within a business. It has been downloaded more than 1 million times here, on Codeplex, and on NuGet. But if you use this project for your own personal use, then the community Toolkit on GitHub is good enough. No one would fee betrayed. Open source projects do that kind of thing all the time. So saying the Free version is always behind with PR behind held away from the community users, in a buggier version will not be an issue anymore. v3.5.0 provides 26 bug fixes and improvements. As a long-term subscriber to the Xceed Ultimate suite - at least 18 years now - I am becoming increasingly concerned with the direction Xceed are taking as a company. Xceed also offers a small business subscription for less (perfect for startups or small companies : https://xceed.com/product/xceed-toolkit-plus-for-wpf/). Here is an example that should get you started and give you the idea: -PL license with the original terms, until December 31st, 2020. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. If you had launched a product from the beginning saying that it was not free for commercial use, that would be fine. Dependencies Used By Versions Release Notes Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. Privacy Policy Used By Versions Release Notes Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. @Dirkster99 thanks so much for your efforts, you have my star too! After all, how do I know if we committed to a paid version, you wouldn't suddenly say 'I know you paid for it, but we feel since you've been really successful, we now get to charge you a per-install instead of a one-time fee.' program for Non-Commercial Use only. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and The Community Toolkit on GitHub can't be used for that. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. I have already begun the process of filing the paperwork in an attempt to get a judgment against Xceed. If your project funded by donations includes the toolkit, you cannot sell this project with the community Toolkit on GitHub. That is why again, I strongly suggest you avoid this product. You promised us something, we committed to using and supporting it, then you yanked it out from underneath us, which is frustrating enough, but just made that much more foul being something thing that was not only free, but something you made open source and which was actively supported by the community. Extended WPF Toolkit (the Software), an Xceed product, for Non-Commercial Use. Already on GitHub? The only time the Plus version (with a paying license) is necessary, is when you are selling your software. You are rubbing your own users the wrong way. Xceed. Xceed reserves the right to settle I will be putting an item on our backlog to migrate away from use of this toolkit. Check out the Plus Edition to support the project, get more controls and features, and work with a version a few releases ahead of the free releases. As a respite for Bengalureans, the traffic snarls have come to normalcy only on Monday but the happiness didn't stay with . A mea culpa. Use it to build professional looking, modern, and easy to use WPF applications. Documentation, source, and discussions are hosted on Github at . Whether you admit it or not, what you did was a bait-and-switch. March 5, 2018 v3.3.0 released with a major update to the DataGrid and 35 bug fixes and improvements. You shouldn't have changed it, dude! you (Licensee) and Xceed Software, Inc. (Xceed). Showing the top 5 popular GitHub repositories that depend on Extended.Wpf.Toolkit: v3.6.0 provides 36 bug fixes and improvements. Until then, you can use this version of the Toolkit. Hello, We renewed our subscription last year, after receiving an email which felt like a threat. First, as mentioned in another post, The Free Open source version of the Toolkit and the Plus Version of the Toolkit are coming to the same point. Extended WPF Toolkit Extended WPF Toolkit by Xceed is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. . Do I need to purchase your commercial licensing? terms & conditions set forth herein are respected. 2019 was an exceptional year at Xceed, where only 1 release of the Toolkit Plus version was released. Got questions about NuGet or the NuGet Gallery? 20 Developer Team License. You, the Licensee, wish to use Xceed's product "Xceed Extended WPF Toolkit" (the "Software"), an Xceed product, for use in a non-commercial application or system or program. However if you take on an open source project then it should stay open source. @XceedBoucherS now that the library is under your custom license you should go trough code and remove any mentions to Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) as it is misleading. Extended WPF Toolkit files, such as WPFToolkit.Extended.dll, are considered a type of Win32 DLL (Dynamic link library) file. v3.7.0 provides 18 bug fixes and improvements. https://github.com/dotnetprojects/WpfExtendedToolkit. No one would have a problem with that. We evaluates them, modify them and include the fix in the next release. Provides 48 controls, all offered under the Xceed Software Inc Community License. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. If so, for how many developers? I have to start by proving out that there is no intent to revert this licensing change. Additional controls and features in the Business Suite for WPF License Information Extended WPF Toolkit is provided under the Xceed Software, Inc. Community License. Community Edition v2.8 provides 23 bug fixes and improvements. Documentation, source, and discussions are hosted on Github at . This blocks myself, and probably many others, from being able to upgrade to the latest public edition of the toolkit unless we pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars in licensing fees. You have made a mistake. Read the Frequently Asked Questions about NuGet and see if your question made the list. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. // Install Extended.Wpf.Toolkit as a Cake Tool Documentation, source, and discussions are hosted on Github at https://github.com/xceedsoftware/wpftoolkit. Documentation, source, and Have projects where someone buys me a beer, is it commercial? Well occasionally send you account related emails. That version of the AvalonDoc code appears to be under BSD (referenced in the download zip file). A WPF control library and theme inspired by Material Design. The Toolkit is still offered for free for your personal needs (or internal projects) with this community edition (packed with around 50 different controls). -sell a license for users to use your project You should take the time to read the thread despite its length - I think its well worth it. Please try with the new v4.0.1, available on Nuget and GitHub. Correcting it would show a good-faith effort to show that you not only heard us, but youre working with us instead of against us. before we sell software) still doesn't address the concerns I mentioned before, namingly a) we made a decision to use your software based on the understanding it would be free to use in commercial projects, and b) we committed to your open source project for the same reason. If you want to talk about it, I invite you to contact sales@xceed.com. Oh wow, I wasn't aware of this at all, thanks for pointing it out! Sure, you made that decision in what's right for you, but you still haven't addressed how we, in the community, committed to fixing your bugs with the understanding that it was for all to use for whatever. Also, the DataGrid control is now part of the Toolkit Plus for WPF.Released February 7, 2019. Documentation, source, and discussions are hosted on Github at https . Like I said in that other discussion not cool. COMMUNITY LICENSE AGREEMENT (for non-commercial use) This Community License Agreement (the "Agreement") is a legal agreement between you ("Licensee") and Xceed Software, Inc. ("Xceed"). I understand that alternatives exist, but I don't get to just swap things out and call it good. But you need to restore what you have before, then be more attentive to fixes. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. Extended WPF Toolkit is the number one collection of WPF controls, components and utilities for creating next generation Windows applications. You do not need to use any of the classes of this assembly (unless customizing the WPF functionality of the platform), and should just use the UI controls from the Eto assembly. We were told that despite holding perpetual licenses for the components, if we didn't renew our subscription, we would not be allowed to modify any of our own code which uses an Xceed component. v4.0.1 provides 46 bug fixes and improvements. Manufacturer Part #: XWTKVV-44 Our Part #: CS-545040-1332574. Xceed Toolkit Plus for WPF Licensing Standard Subscription: Includes a perpetual license for the current version as well as any new versions or updates released for 1 year, for one named member of your development or testing team. Like I said, not cool. Based on this, it appears their way of getting "version parity" between paid and non-paid editions is to switch from monetizing updates for x months to monetizing commercial entities. Maybe theres nothing there, but even if not, I dont think you realize just how much bad press and bad karma youre putting out into the world with this change as it relates to Xceed. Use it to build professional looking, modern, and easy to use WPF applications. v3.5.0 provides 26 bug fixes and improvements. Licensing & Delivery. License/sub-license/lease all results in making money : you can't do that. But I'm certainly a commercial enterprise and you could argue that this software is used to make money because it helps us do performance reviews, which helps retain good talent and so we make more money. Xceed agrees to license its products to developers like you as along as all Do I need to purchase your commercial licensing? Yes, you may have to do the merging yourself, but guess what thats what every owner of an open-source project has to do. Licensee wishes to use the Xceed Xceed does not allow Community Licensees to publish results from benchmarks or Since the beginning of this project, you get 'X' for free, but if you pay, you also get Y, plus support. Xceed, I appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. You changed your mind and have now screwed over the community who helped make your products what they are. Released September 27, 2019. There are no news posts discussing any future updates. Such use of the Software means that it is not primarily intended for commercial v3.5.0 provides 26 bug fixes and improvements. deploying/distributing (to less than 10 users or end-users) an application, system or Would Licensee need to use the Software for Again, if you make money with the Toolkit, we believe you can pay at least for the small business license (or see what is possible with the sales department). By selling it, you make money : you need a Commercial Toolkit license, you need to use the Plus version of the Toolkit and pay the license from https://xceed.com/xceed-toolkit-plus-for-wpf/.
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